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Trance Addict · Oct 26, 2005, 01:08 PM // 13:08

So I finally got Gordac's Holy Rod (after searching for it since SF's release). There I was peacefully healing people, when I noticed that after about 2 hours of constantly using Heal Other, Dwayna's Kiss and Melandru's Resilience, the later skill NEVER recharged faster than the 25 seconds mentioned.

Now, in that timeframe, I saw Seed, Other, Kiss, etc. recharge much faster than normal, but not a single time did Resilience recharge faster.

What is this? Gordac's Holy Rod clearly states
Improves Casting Speed (10% Chance)
Improves SKILL Recharge (10% Chance)

Skills are not only limited to spells.

WHAT'S GOING ON ARENANET? HUH?

Tactical-Dillusions · Oct 26, 2005, 01:41 PM // 13:41

Sounds like bad luck.

I will run a test using various skills (with gordacs rod and resilience) and post the results here. Watch this space.....

Trance Addict · Oct 26, 2005, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Nope.
I have Primal Echos, Remove Hex, Purge Conditions, Troll Unguent, Muddy Terrain, Purge Signet, Melandru's Resilience and Succor.

The only skills that are affected are spells. Remove hex cast quicker twice (didn't see a better recharge) and Purge Conditions recharged quicker quite a few times.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Oct 26, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Primal Echo's is a Nature Ritural same for Muddy terrain...
TU is a skill...
Purge Signet is a Signet...
Succor is an Enchantment...
I think Reslilience was a stance...
let me load up GW and check

Trance Addict · Oct 26, 2005, 02:12 PM // 14:12

Yes, and they're all found where?

IN YOUR SKILL BAR! ZOMG. You can equip 8 SKILLS at once. The mod clearly states improves SKILL recharge. So, if it were up to you, only skills (such as Blackout) would be affected and not spells.

Tactical-Dillusions · Oct 26, 2005, 02:15 PM // 14:15

I just cast resilience 50 times and it never had an improved recharge.

The rod is broken or the descriptions need re-writing...a SKILL should mean a SKILL.

Zakarr · Oct 26, 2005, 02:16 PM // 14:16

They all are some type of skills. Some skills are just skills so they don't have any special type.

Improves Skill Recharge (10% Chance) should mean that every skill no matter what type it is, sometimes has decreased recharge if they have recharge time.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Oct 26, 2005, 02:27 PM // 14:27

They've always needed to reword this...
But when it comes to mod's 20% chance to recharge for ALL SKILLS/SPELL wouldnt be that balanced.

Its mainly focused to the skills that cant be disenchanted.
like Hex Removal and Purge Conditions; it isnt an enchant but it cures people = a skill, or should be called a spell?
thats the problem where people cant deciver.

Tactical-Dillusions · Oct 26, 2005, 02:34 PM // 14:34

OK, so when you use a mod that says "improves SKILL recharge using divine favor skills"... it recharges DF SIGNETS too.

So SIGNETS are classed as skills or it's only a SKILL if it's in a specified attribute? Damn this is confusing...sounds to me like the whole description/classification system is whacked.

Let's see this reworked Anet.

Skills (as in things in your skillbar), Skills (as in the "skill" attribute), signets, spells, attribute specific items.

kawaii_bat · Oct 26, 2005, 02:41 PM // 14:41

Really when it says improves skill recharge it should apply to all spells/enchantments/hexes/signets/stances/shouts/attacks because they are all in a way skills.

If it doesn't work with one skill in particular and sometimes with others reguardless of the type, it's probably those spells that have problems with the rod.

Not vice versa.

Or maybe particular Rods (such as greens) might have problems with skills because they are new and might not have been worded correctly.

forever · Oct 26, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions

OK, so when you use a mod that says "improves SKILL recharge using divine favor skills"... it recharges DF SIGNETS too.

So SIGNETS are classed as skills or it's only a SKILL if it's in a specified attribute? Damn this is confusing...sounds to me like the whole description/classification system is whacked.

Let's see this reworked Anet.

Skills (as in things in your skillbar), Skills (as in the "skill" attribute), signets, spells, attribute specific items.

Have you tested DF signets? I'm not sure about the mod "improves skill recharge using divine favor skills", but I'm sure the "improves skill recharge 10% chance" thing doesn't work on divine favor signets (blessed signet and signet of devotion). I've tested it. Cast those two signets numorous times, never saw fast cast or fast recharge. So I suspect those mods are just for spells, not all the skills.

Rajamic · Oct 26, 2005, 08:00 PM // 20:00

They should change 'skillbar' to 'abilitybar' and anything that goes in the 'abilitybar' is an 'ability'

It's a pain in the butt having everything be a 'skill' and have a subset of those 'skills' be called 'skills'. I've been complaining about the working ever since I learned about Expertise.

Oct 26, 2005, 01:08 PM // 13:08	#1
Trance Addict Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Guild: [ruff] Doggy Style	silly of me to think that all skills... meant... ALL SKILLS So I finally got Gordac's Holy Rod (after searching for it since SF's release). There I was peacefully healing people, when I noticed that after about 2 hours of constantly using Heal Other, Dwayna's Kiss and Melandru's Resilience, the later skill NEVER recharged faster than the 25 seconds mentioned. Now, in that timeframe, I saw Seed, Other, Kiss, etc. recharge much faster than normal, but not a single time did Resilience recharge faster. What is this? Gordac's Holy Rod clearly states Improves Casting Speed (10% Chance) Improves *SKILL* Recharge (10% Chance) Skills are not only limited to spells. WHAT'S GOING ON ARENANET? HUH?

Oct 26, 2005, 01:41 PM // 13:41	#2
Tactical-Dillusions Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grimsby, UK Profession: R/	Sounds like bad luck. I will run a test using various skills (with gordacs rod and resilience) and post the results here. Watch this space.....

Oct 26, 2005, 01:54 PM // 13:54	#3
Trance Addict Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Guild: [ruff] Doggy Style	Nope. I have Primal Echos, Remove Hex, Purge Conditions, Troll Unguent, Muddy Terrain, Purge Signet, Melandru's Resilience and Succor. The only skills that are affected are spells. Remove hex cast quicker twice (didn't see a better recharge) and Purge Conditions recharged quicker quite a few times.

Oct 26, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09	#4
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	Primal Echo's is a Nature Ritural same for Muddy terrain... TU is a skill... Purge Signet is a Signet... Succor is an Enchantment... I think Reslilience was a stance... let me load up GW and check

Oct 26, 2005, 02:12 PM // 14:12	#5
Trance Addict Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Guild: [ruff] Doggy Style	Yes, and they're all found where? IN YOUR SKILL BAR! ZOMG. You can equip 8 SKILLS at once. The mod clearly states improves SKILL recharge. So, if it were up to you, only skills (such as Blackout) would be affected and not spells.

Oct 26, 2005, 02:15 PM // 14:15	#6
Tactical-Dillusions Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grimsby, UK Profession: R/	I just cast resilience 50 times and it never had an improved recharge. The rod is broken or the descriptions need re-writing...a SKILL should mean a SKILL.

Oct 26, 2005, 02:16 PM // 14:16	#7
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	They all are some type of skills. Some skills are just skills so they don't have any special type. Improves Skill Recharge (10% Chance) should mean that every skill no matter what type it is, sometimes has decreased recharge if they have recharge time.

Oct 26, 2005, 02:27 PM // 14:27	#8
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	They've always needed to reword this... But when it comes to mod's 20% chance to recharge for ALL SKILLS/SPELL wouldnt be that balanced. Its mainly focused to the skills that cant be disenchanted. like Hex Removal and Purge Conditions; it isnt an enchant but it cures people = a skill, or should be called a spell? thats the problem where people cant deciver.

Oct 26, 2005, 02:34 PM // 14:34	#9
Tactical-Dillusions Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grimsby, UK Profession: R/	OK, so when you use a mod that says "improves SKILL recharge using divine favor skills"... it recharges DF SIGNETS too. So SIGNETS are classed as skills or it's only a SKILL if it's in a specified attribute? Damn this is confusing...sounds to me like the whole description/classification system is whacked. Let's see this reworked Anet. Skills (as in things in your skillbar), Skills (as in the "skill" attribute), signets, spells, attribute specific items.

Oct 26, 2005, 02:41 PM // 14:41	#10
kawaii_bat Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada, Gatineau Guild: None Profession: Mo/R	Really when it says improves skill recharge it should apply to all spells/enchantments/hexes/signets/stances/shouts/attacks because they are all in a way skills. If it doesn't work with one skill in particular and sometimes with others reguardless of the type, it's probably those spells that have problems with the rod. Not vice versa. Or maybe particular Rods (such as greens) might have problems with skills because they are new and might not have been worded correctly.

Oct 26, 2005, 08:00 PM // 20:00	#12
Rajamic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: IA Guild: Chronicles of Heroes [CoH] Profession: R/Me	They should change 'skillbar' to 'abilitybar' and anything that goes in the 'abilitybar' is an 'ability' It's a pain in the butt having everything be a 'skill' and have a subset of those 'skills' be called 'skills'. I've been complaining about the working ever since I learned about Expertise.